Wednesday, April 22, 2009


A new report released by the Senate Armed Services Committee states that the Bush administration, with great input from Dick Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz, had started planning on using torture on prisoners long before the military was having trouble getting information from them. In fact, this planning started before there were any prisoners in custody. The report also states how then Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was the architect of the torture.

Here's part of the article from Salon, the rest can be found here.

Bush officials said they only tortured terrorists after they wouldn't talk. New evidence shows they planned torture soon after 9/11 -- and used it to find links between al-Qaida and Saddam.

Download the entire Senate Armed Services Committee report here. Read about how the Bush administration may have pressured interrogators to use torture to extract information linking al-Qaida to Saddam Hussein here. Read about Donald Rumsfeld's role in promoting harsh interrogation techniques here.

The Senate Armed Services Committee has just released an exhaustive review of torture under the Bush administration that, among other revelations, torpedoes the notion that the administration only chose torture as a last resort. Bush officials have long argued that they turned to coercive interrogations in 2002 only after captured al-Qaida suspects wouldn't talk, but the report shows the administration set the wheels in motion soon after 9/11. The Bush White House began planning for torture in December 2001, set up a program to develop the interrogation techniques by the next month, and the military and the CIA began training interrogators in coercive practices in early 2002, before they had any high-value al-Qaida
suspects or any trouble eliciting information from detainees.

As the report puts it, "The fact is that senior officials in the United States government solicited information on how to use aggressive techniques, redefined the law to create the appearance of their legality, and authorized their use against detainees." The report undercuts the Obama administration's case for leniency against the CIA, since the agency was pursuing abusive techniques even before Department of Justice lawyers had issued their supposed legal justification for the techniques in August 2002. The report also shows that the administration appears to have attempted to use the abusive techniques to shore up its case for war in Iraq. Interrogators employed the techniques, which are notorious for producing bad intelligence, to get detainees to make statements linking Iraq and al-Qaida.

Bush and Cheney needed proof that al-Qaeda was operating in Iraq so they could prove that their actions there were justified. That was proof they never got, because there was never any proof that al-Qaeda was ever there.


One Fly said...

These bastards started screwing us the moment the little prick got done taking the oath in 2000.

When they had enough dirt the black mailing started and the dims allowed it all and if they didn't there was going to be a payback for that. It is the only thing that explains our situation.

And just watch -there will be no charges for torture cause the threat is still present.

Grandpa Eddie said...

Yeah, One Fly, from some of the other things I've been hearing and reading today it sounds like it's not going very far.
I wonder how many Dems worked real close with Bush on this.

A World Quite Mad said...

Oh, me thinks that the Dems were in deep on this. In the very least, by their silence and lack of opposition to it, they are just as guilty as anyone else.

Prime example: Jane Harman,(D-California)

Grandpa Eddie said...

I'm sure you're right A world quite Mad, and they need to be shown to the public so we can se who they are also.

SheaNC said...

I'll always remember Bush solemnly proclaiming he would bring an end to Saddam Hussein's "torture and rape rooms". Of course, now we know he didn't mean eliminate them, he meant taking them over and running them under his name instead.

Grandpa Eddie said...

Yeah Shea, he told us he wanted to eliminate the torture and rape rooms when what he really wanted to do was emulate them.